tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post4545918268342854240..comments2023-11-05T06:12:59.718-05:00Comments on S.Lott-Software Architect: The Moderator ProblemS.Lotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06337323642834330176noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-2659788678387450292012-05-01T23:05:50.798-04:002012-05-01T23:05:50.798-04:00wait... they kicked you off SO? that's insane ...wait... they kicked you off SO? that's insane given your contribution.<br /><br />That being said, I echo the feelings of e-satis and sirver<br /><br />if your goal is to teach people you need to do more then provide a sufficient answer. Maybe pick up a book on teaching like Ignite (geared towards teaching younger children). <br /><br />In short, people need to feel comfortable in order to learn. If they feel mocked,afraid,outclassed or any anything other then excited and safe they will recoil. Enough recoil and they will revolt even if your answer is correct.MidnightCoffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01140042500999391364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-91541782630759188042012-03-14T14:54:30.736-04:002012-03-14T14:54:30.736-04:00You could claim that your high smart/humble ratio ...You could claim that your high smart/humble ratio is really Asperger Syndrome (like Temperance Brennan on "Bones"), and they're discriminating against you ;-)Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12388833419194438104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-30674184470866366782012-03-14T07:22:21.681-04:002012-03-14T07:22:21.681-04:00This shut down is indeed quite unfair, but you had...This shut down is indeed quite unfair, but you had it coming.<br /><br />You do have an history of being agressive, on SO at least.<br /><br />I do find your answers interesting, I even got your blog in my RSS feeds.<br /><br />But man, if you don't learn to say interesting things in a more diplomatic way, you'll get people cumulating bad feelings about you, and they will strike back one day (like this one), whatever the reason, just because they can.<br /><br />You can ignore this advice (which, again, comes from somebody that actually likes to read you), but if you do so, just stop complaining about the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-54062247137259915612012-03-14T05:08:08.930-04:002012-03-14T05:08:08.930-04:00While you certainly have the right to express your...While you certainly have the right to express your opinion here Mr. Lott, it would help an awful lot to link to the question in question - for people not so familiar with the SO knowledge cycle.<br /><br />That said, I always feel that a message consist of 50% content and 50% presentation. For example the sentence "False assumption." has the content "I think this is a false assumption" for you. I believe, you try to cut the 'obvious'. Others might read the 'obvious' as "I know that better than you". It is your personal opinion - your presentation should reflect this clearly imho or the message becomes unclear: "I feel this is a wrong assumption." I think you want to be effective - but you cannot be effective with people (See the 7 habits book).<br /><br />The comment of Wassim suggests to me that people could have taken offense in your presentation which could have lead to a swing of emotions which could have led to this no-win situation here. Wassim seems to have taken a commendable approach to this and changed (bettered!) himself which is really the only thing one can do as one can't change others. I would suggest you take an example in him as he did in you and think about 'bettering' your presentation. I do not put the blame on you (or the moderator for that matter) - but you cannot change the moderator, only yourself.<br /><br />I really hope we do not loose your knowledge and your love of sharing it. It would be a loss for the python community.SirVerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09151411707813360854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-1926672788699690652012-03-14T01:46:40.165-04:002012-03-14T01:46:40.165-04:00I'm sorry, but I seem to be reading the actual...I'm sorry, but I seem to be reading the actual exchange differently. Your original comment (in the question history) was "The extra curly braces aren't really all that helpful." Which is not the same as "{}'s aren't essential."[?]<br /><br />If your statement was "{}s are not essential in a language" it makes sense (and is fact). "The extra curly braces aren't really all that helpful" on the other hand, is an opinion because there is no way to determine whether it is true or not - what is "really", or "helpful"?lycheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180529366143269862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-16293611501767805012012-03-13T14:36:27.028-04:002012-03-13T14:36:27.028-04:00Ok. It's about some months now since I've ...Ok. It's about some months now since I've decided to quit SO for a while. You, Mr. Lott, you were the reason. In what way? Well, without entering to the boring details let's just say that you're "HARD" with not-so-academic-formatted-brains. I'm one of them.<br /><br />BUT, your attitude made me think about why this man with worth-gold rep is hard with me? After some extra thoughts I realized that the man with the big rep (you Mr. Lott) is just PRECISE, and apparently I'm one of those who don't dare to face precision. After taking a look at your worth-being-classics books, I finally realized that I need to re-introduce myself with computer science, the science of DETAILS.<br /><br />Now, I'm enrolled in a computer science class, I'm reading math books, I'm trying to be precise in my thoughts, and I'm somehow ashamed of posting those kind of questions, but it seems that it was worth it. I'm really thankful to you Mr. Lott.<br /><br />BTW, I'm changed to a point where I'm starting to think that Alex Martellis answers are too long, he needs to be more PRECISE ;-)Wassimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14662714294615326658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-10782066896109428512012-03-13T14:18:50.843-04:002012-03-13T14:18:50.843-04:00I'm sure it was your tone that was the problem...I'm sure it was your tone that was the problem -- how you said it rather than what you said. While I don't use Programmers, your SO answers (and comments) are often dripping with an intolerable (to me) superior attitude.<br /><br />I'm not sure moderator action is warranted, but I can understand wanting to remove you from the conversation, as I often feel you are a net negative whatever your level of technical knowledge or correctness.adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498725683246790895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-42748864156584981322012-03-13T12:03:06.088-04:002012-03-13T12:03:06.088-04:00Sad to read this and the train wreck SE chat, but ...Sad to read this and the train wreck SE chat, but the most damning part is how much latitude the moderators have to put words in your mouth. Each answer has the look and feel like it's "from me", but if moderators are encouraged to replace what I say with what they prefer I had said, I'll have to rethink my participation in Stack Exchange before aggressive editors start making me sound just like Wikipedia. The "edited" link isn't enough to signal that "my words" may in fact be someone else's.fumanchuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100140919727858844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-54819851235996578992012-03-13T10:51:41.987-04:002012-03-13T10:51:41.987-04:00Curly braces essential? How about all the languag...Curly braces essential? How about all the languages that don't use braces? Like Fortran, Pascal, Lisp, Forth, Ada, Erlang, and who knows how many more. It would be easier to argue that statement terminators (semicolons, etc.) may be essential, but braces?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006904787527262772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-59312990324870935332012-03-13T10:07:18.837-04:002012-03-13T10:07:18.837-04:00If curly braces are essential and indentation is a...If curly braces are essential and indentation is a matter of opinion, then why is indentation style considered a key issue in coding styles for curly brace languages?<br /><br />But I understand; I grew up in the curly brace world. Significant whitespace was downright scary to me at first, too. I overcame my fear and so will they. It's just a shame they've chased away a valuable asset in the interim.TechNeilogyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377881138289568562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-684183198890094283.post-69310770695320282812012-03-13T09:21:06.743-04:002012-03-13T09:21:06.743-04:00I read through the chat transcripts that resulted ...I read through the chat transcripts that resulted from the question, er, in question and...well, just wow. All I can think of to say is that StackExchange is losing a huge asset if they force you out. Your handle is very familiar to me, a frequent peruser of [python]. When there is an exceptionally detailed and helpful Python-related answer it very frequently comes from one of a small list of people...and you are one of those people. All I can say is that if you start spending less time on StackExchange it just means you have more time to spend helping in other knowledge-circles.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17090064329528852345noreply@blogger.com